Gordon Duff | Veterans Today | 9 Nov 2014
[AM editor’s note: somewhat undignified and petty accusations being hurled about which could start in-fighting within the global resistance against globalist-bankster occupation … shame].
[ Editor’s Note: Dear Mr. Paul Craig Roberts, we would appreciate your not stealing any more of Gordon’s material and using it unattributed.
Yes, you usually wait three or even six months before recycling, but you are stealing it just the same. Your last bin Laden article was all Gordon’s work.
We know that you don’t have any real sources, as none of ours have ever had a call from you about anything. We have two board members, General Gul and Lee Wanta who were handlers for a time for CIA agent Tim Osman, and that is just the handlers.
Please stick to your financial and geopolitical stuff, and please stay away from subject matter where you don’t have to steal other people’s stuff who actually did the work. It’s not nice.
You are getting old and are going to die one of these days, and I am sure you don’t want this on your conscience at the Pearly Gates… Jim W. Dean ]
Veterans Day is coming up and it starts. We now have a Navy SEAL, real or imaginary, I just don’t care, humiliating all of us by making a total ass of himself. This one claims he killed “Osama bin Laden.”
Those of us with real access know that to be impossible. Bin Laden AKA Colonel Tim Osmon, the rank given him by the CIA, died December 13, 2001.
Recent documents released from Russia, part of the Snowden trove, made it clear: Al Qaeda is an operational group of CIA, Mossad and Saudi Intelligence tasked with false flag terrorism. The investigation into their crimes is called Able Danger.
My own knowledge of bin Laden come from examining the records of both the ISPR and ISI in Pakistan. There, I met with the Director’s of both units including General Pasha, Director General of Pakistan’s feared ISI. As a witness to the briefings, former Senate Finance general consul Jeff Gates was seated beside me. Let someone else come up with a more credible witness.
Then we can discuss who bin Laden really was. During debriefings with Lee Wanta, former White House intelligence coordinator for President Reagan, bin Laden was always a loyal CIA operational officer. During times when bin Laden was supposedly being hunted, we have slam-dunk proof he was in the United States. We have locations of meetings, those he met with including both Wanta, Oliver North and top Washington officials.
We know the hotels he stayed in, what meals he ordered at the Metropolitan Club, that and so much more. All of this has been in print for some time. If someone killed bin Laden, they murdered a CIA agent. There is no record that bin Laden ever went “rogue.”
Then again, the whole shameful event was staged to cover the withdrawal of CIA director Leon Panetta. Panetta had to get the “bin Laden kill” so that Petraeus, a man nobody trusted, could never play that card.
Bin Laden’s death had been kept “on ice” for years, to use as a political football. Panetta got “the big win” in order to leave Petraeus, now tied to setting up ISIS while commander in Iraq, vulnerable. Petraeus’ proclivity for sexual interest with androgynous females brought him down.
Hell, I always liked the guy though he was a brainless hack. This is the guy who armed the Baathists, set up ISIS, built the Sunni militias then went to Afghanistan and got the drug business operating like clockwork. Who could hate a man like that?
Let’s talk about the Abbottabad farce. We have a long dead and horrifically sick man, often treated in American hospitals, supposedly watching a small TV where he had been in a “safe house.”
You pick the story, he leaps up, grabs an AK, pulls a defenseless woman in front of him as a human shield, and dies in a hail of gunfire, just like Bonnie and Clyde.
Of course, we see scraps of a stealth helicopter all over and get reports of 6 American dead, in fact more Americans than the one helicopter could hold.
The original plan was to set up a forward operating base in Pakistan, drive up supplies and fuel. They flew in the short range stealth helicopter, landing it in Pakistan. When it hit a stone fence and caught fire, killing the crew and most occupants, they abandoned that plan. The real plan was to capture bin Laden, fly him to the refueling base and then off to Bagram Air Force Base.
As to who or what they planned for “show and tell” as bin Laden, we can only guess. The Israeli’s had been dealing with phony bin Laden’s for years. With no bin Laden, a cover story had to be invented, the magic flight across a continent in a “stealth” flying “garbage truck,” the CH53 Sea Stallion.
It gets better, the flight to a carrier in the Indian ocean. You see, the stealth helicopter was gone. There was no way to get from there to the Indian Ocean. The story gets better. Try to find out about Pakistan’s air defense systems. Go ahead. Pakistan supposedly wasn’t able to detect the stealth helicopter that flew in from Afghanistan. However, the multiple CH53’s that would have had to make the 1300 kilometer flight would have had a problem or two.
The range of the Sea Stallion is around 500 miles, most of which would have been used up getting there. Flying out to the Indian Ocean would have required multiple refuelings.
The other problem is air defenses. The Ch53 isn’t stealth, quite the opposite. Does Pakistan have air defenses? Actually, their air defense system is slightly better than Israel’s and nearly equal to the US. Based on 9/11, Pakistan’s air defenses may well be the best in the world, capable of detecting stealth fighters and intercepting some ICBMs.
Lockheed build the system which was up and operating in 2007.
Then again, bin Laden was a CIA hero, deserving in 2001 of a star on the wall of anonymous dead in Langley. Long before the claimed murder of bin Laden, it had long been public not only that he was dead but VT had published photos of him with American leaders.
Instead, we are told he got an “Islamic water burial.” There is no such thing, quite the opposite. Someone pulled that one out of the same trash bin as the phony death photos that quickly disappeared when it was learned that they had been used years before. Members of congress, briefed and given the phony photos soon found them on the image section of Google where they had sat for years. Save me from idiots like this!
I have friends who are Navy SEALS. They are great people. Those of us who work in intel know that if we ever need help, it will be a Navy SEAL that will come.
Many of us owe our lives to them. Guys, please “police your own.” Shut these blowhards up, they are embarrassing all of us.